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A pox on me for not doing enough testing. The templates weren't displaying well at all in Mozilla. So, for the 3% of readers that use Netscape, I've changed the templates back. I'll be working on finding a fix for netscape, and then I'll reconvert to CSS.

Sorry to my Netscape readers for the inconvenience.

UPDATE: I've put the CSS templates back up. Screw those netscape losers. Ok, not really. I figured out that nescape was wigging out over the position inheritance in the DIVs. Once I deleted the inheritance instructions from the CSS files, everything started working fine. Or so it would appear.

Please let me know if you find any bugs. It should display correctly in the latest versions of Netscape and IE now. I'm still not completely happy with the netscape look and feel, but I don't have time to tweak it right now.

UPDATE: If it was displaying garbled earlier, you may need to SHIFT-REFRESH your browser to get it you clear out your cache and re-read all the files. I noticed that Netscape didn't correct the errors unless I forced it to reload the pages with the correct style sheets.

While I'll try to address all browser compatibility issues, please realize that I primarily program this site for IE. Looking at my stats, more than 85% of the users read this site with Internet Explorer. Netscape/Mozilla users are 4.7% and 2.2% respectively. Opera, Safari, Galeon, and Lynx users are all less than 1%. I'm sorry, but I cannot address problems for every browser out there. Remember, there is always the PDA version and numerous XML versions to choose from.



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It doesn't render right in Opera either - seems to lock it up for me.

Posted by: Matt Harris at July 29, 2003 9:26 PM

I have an old Netscape and everything's fine. Except I always turn off ``automatically load images'' so am immune to most of the fancy stuff. Text is all you need. It's a thousand times faster downloading and avoids most of the feature upgrade bugs everywhere. Also there's no ads.

Posted by: Ron Hardin at July 29, 2003 9:43 PM

Mozilla 1.4 user here. It renders reasonably well. The one difference that seems to jump out between IE and Mozilla is that IE shows a small right margin while Mozilla bumps right up against the edge of the display area.

Also, Mozilla does a much better job of rendering when the windows are resized: displaying all text while IE starts cutting off the text (give Mozilla 5 points).

Posted by: Steve at July 30, 2003 12:43 AM

Matt,
I made some changes and Opera 7 works fine for me. Is your opera still crashing?

Steve,
I added some padding to the right margin, so it shouldn't butt up against the side anymore.

Posted by: Ravenwood at July 31, 2003 10:11 PM

Ok, Opera works fine on the main page, but loads incredibly slow on the larger Monthly and Category archives.

Posted by: Ravenwood at July 31, 2003 10:17 PM

Looks great. I see the side margin. And the resizing issue in IE that I mentioned before does not exist anymore. Points even.

Posted by: steve at July 31, 2003 11:47 PM

I fixed the doctype variable in the code, and made sure that the CSS classes were setting the size of the text appropriately. I still have some tweaks to the code I need to make, but that should pretty much take care of the majority of it.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to fix the Opera problem. Opera doesn't like to render the larger pages. Even on my broadband connection, Netscape rendered a large monthly archive in 30 seconds, and Opera crashed after about 3 or 4 minutes of trying to load the page.

Posted by: Ravenwood at August 1, 2003 7:46 AM

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