Ravenwood - 09/10/03 06:00 AM
With women breaking the gender barrier at public military institutions, it is no surprise that some men want to form their own private college to restore what once was. Personally, I have no problem with women in the military or military institutions. I do, however, have a problem with regulations and specifications being relaxed to accommodate them. If a woman wants to go to the Citadel, that's fine, but she should not complain about the lack of privacy or the tough physical regimen when she gets there.
The gender barrier was indeed broken, as it probably should have been at a public institution. Women pay taxes too, and should not be excluded from such places. Separate but equal never did work, so gender integration was inevitable. But private institutions built with private funds should be free to practice gender discrimination should they so choose. CNN reports that some military academy graduates are planning just such an institution. Media whores like Martha Burk are sure to get their panties into a bind over such a plan, and moving it forward may prove to be more difficult than they expect. Local officials are already whispering about whether or not such an institution would be welcome in their back yard.
Bedford County Executive Jimmy Woodson said he has not been contacted by the group but said the college would be welcome if it "doesn't discriminate against minorities and women."Legally, I don't think there is much Woodson could do about it, once it's in place. Since it isn't in place, however, he can use his political power to influence building permits, business licences, and other services that an institution would require of local officials. To be blunt, if he doesn't get his way, he can set up obstacles and make life a living hell for the academy founders. Expensive lawsuits could be necessary to compel local government officials to do the jobs that they are required to do. Just like a local Mayor shouldn't be allowed to keep a black man from opening a business because he's black, he also shouldn't be allowed to keep male separatists from opening up their own military college just because he doesn't like them.
I don't quite understand the opposition to an all male school. Women have had all female schools for decades. Assuming the institutions aren't being funded with taxpayer dollars, the local government should treat them like any other business. Whether Woodson wants them there or not, shouldn't matter. They have a right to exist, and are breaking no laws.
Exactly.
Posted by: Charles Munn at September 10, 2003 11:02 AMYou dumb fuck. Don't youy realize the rules are only for US, and not for THEM?
[US = white males]
[THEM = the other 57 varieties]
>You dumb fuck. Don't youy realize the rules are only for US, and not for THEM?
The way I read it, the article is about retifying, or at the very least, acknowledging your point that the rules are only for males.
As Ravenwood put it, "They have a right to exist and are breaking no laws." and as I responded, "Exactly"
Still, being the dumb fuck that I am, maybe I'm missing you point entirely and not the other way around.
Ravenwood says he doesn't understand the uproar about an all-male institution; there are all-female institutions, aren't there?
Problem here is, should we apply logic (Ravenwood's approach), or should we try to understand womankind as she really works?
Here's the short version: Women enjoy the company of men, while men enjoy the company of other men. As a result, women try to tear the walls down around any institution that denies them admittance. This is a phenomenon that existed when boys put "No Gurls Allowd" signs on their treehouses, and is still alive and well. How many men are lining up to play in an LPGA tournament?
The relationship between men and women is not the same as the relationship between women and men; it is not symmetrical. This explains the world but defies logic, which keeps insisting that the distance between A and B is the same as the distance between B and A. If A and B are mapped out on a Cartesian grid, the distance is the same. But if A is a man and B is a woman -- or the other way around, if you're an angry feminist who insists that I should let women be A and men be B -- then we are talking about irregularly-lengthed distances.
Well Lee, I'm not disagreeing with you on principal. When I was about 14yrs for some silly reason that I don't remember, I took an offer to go to an all male private school, tuition free, if I played on the football team. ( They must have been desperate because I wasn't that good )
I lasted about 1 week in that school and then high tailed it back to public high school and co-education. Since I'm just an average guy and I don't like the company of men enough to go to an all male school, I suspect that many other guys feel about the same way. That is, we truly like women, even if some are ego centristic. ( Shudder ) Some of us even like to cook for them and other little non macho things.
But hey, I like my pals. Even enjoy having a drink or two with them, play a game of pool or darts. But in the end usually what we both want is to hook up with some sweet smelling woman.
Posted by: Charles Munn at September 13, 2003 1:08 PM(c) Ravenwood and Associates, 1990 - 2014
