Ravenwood - 02/23/04 06:30 AM
The 2004 Shelby Cobra concept should definitely turn some heads on the street. The front/mid engine car should zoom to 60 miles per hour in less than four seconds. Unfortunately though, that's about it. The vehicle is electronically limited to 100 mph, and comes with very few frills.
This production-feasible roadster has a 427-inspired 605-horsepower, all-aluminum V-10 engine mounted at the front of an advanced aluminum chassis modified from the rear-engine Ford GT.It weighs slightly more than 3,000 pounds and is about as long as a Mazda Miata. There's no roof, no side glass, not even a radio. "That's the formula," said Carroll Shelby. "It's a massive motor in a tiny, lightweight car."
I don't really understand the reason for building a 600 hp muscle car that will only go 100 mph. Personally, I'd rather spend my money on something a little more classic, like this 1966 Shelby Cobra.
It may only have about 450 horses, but the classic car is a bit lighter weight. It also has the classic styling, with the pipes down the side where they belong. The conventional style exhaust on the Ford Concept is sacrilege.
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The new one is fugly, too.
100mph? What the hell were they thinking?
A friend of mine built a 69 (i think) from one of those kits that a local company makes. I think it's on a mustang frame. I forgot what type engine he put in it but when you pop it gear and let off the clutch, it will bark the tires.
Posted by: SayUncle at February 23, 2004 10:02 AMElectronically limited to 100 mph means very little. A new chip or a reflash of the existing, and it is off to the track.
Posted by: Kingslasher at February 23, 2004 11:21 AMthis one elicts a big 'ol yawn from me
Posted by: MMW at February 23, 2004 2:28 PMKingflasher is correct. Toyota Supras (along with a host of other fast vehicles) are commonly electronically governed to 155mph. Generally, the program will tell the main computer to cut the spark to a cylinder or two in order to slow the vehicle. When you hit the limiter, It is very rude.
Dependng on the manufacturers configuration, you can either replace the current chipset, splice a new chipset into the line that contains a program which tells the main computer to ignore the limiting program or, my favorite, reinstall a bootleg program that has an extra zero added to the limit speed in the program.
1550mph anyone?
Posted by: analogkid at February 23, 2004 3:02 PMI thought of that when I posted the article, but figured the average guy isn't going to bother to do that. My Explorer SUV is governed at 100, something I never even realized until last year when driving through the mountains.
I guess for people that frequently work on their cars or modify them, it's no big deal. But for those of us that like to just sign and drive, it's a major hassle.
Posted by: Ravenwood at February 23, 2004 4:16 PMGotcha RW.
If you want, if you do end up getting one of those Mustangs that you posted about a couple of months back, I'll try and find you a shop in your area that can void the gov on it for you.
Repro takes about an hour ($150), chip rep about 2 hours ($250) and most of the day for a line splice ($400).
And yes, it is worth it. But I still love the look on a guy face when we're neck and neck and his gov kicks in. You'd think his balls fell off. Well, technically they do.
PS Speaking of Mustangs, I am going to have to null and void the offer of the Roush ride I offered a while back. It went through a spontaneous disassembly episode over the Valentine's day weekend. Ugly. Very ugly.
Posted by: analog kid at February 23, 2004 8:05 PMI suspect the concept is governed at 100 mph to keep the motor-noters from blowing up the engine in their delight, the way they did to that last $400k Porsche supercar. Production models, assuming there are any, will probably be limited by tire capacity (which suggests the same 155 mph as the brand-name Germans).
Posted by: CGHill at February 23, 2004 10:09 PM"production-feasible" & "concept".... note those words, then think about what you wrote....
you don't understand it because you apparently don't understand the concept process... a concept in the auto world is a working model. Many things, in fact MOST things on a concept change prior to production. In fact, they generally change prior to the final prototype. If this were the final pre-production prototype, I might be worried, but it's not even close.
The speed limit is more than likely due to the fact that they aren't sure the motor won't rip the rear-end apart and destroy half the vehicle in the process at the higher speeds. Engineering is all well and good, but it's usually strictly theoretical.
I think it's Discovery that has a special on this car, it might explain the governor in that.
I saw this car at the auto show in Providence a couple of weeks ago... it's beautiful and although they claim it's "no-frills", it has some things that will NEVER make it to production, such as rear-view cameras situated on the windshield posts, transmitting to tiny LCD-type screens where a mirror would normally be.
analogue kid... you failed to mention that disrupting the governor in ANY way voids the ENTIRE factory warranty on every vehicle I'm aware of. You're better off building a kit-car if you want a faster vehicle.
Posted by: Jim S at February 26, 2004 12:15 PM"you don't understand it because you apparently don't understand the concept process"
I love you too, Jim.
Posted by: Ravenwood at February 26, 2004 1:23 PMit wasn't meant offensively.... I was just restating what you said....
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