Ravenwood - 07/12/05 07:45 AM
Remember the evil looking black gun I ordered for BAG Day 2005? I'm beginning to wonder if I'll actually take possession of it before another BAG Day rolls around again next April.
I actually ordered it (and paid for it) way back in March. Bushmaster is still in the process of building it and transferring it to my dealer. They haven't even coughed up a serial number yet, so I can't even start the paperwork cycle to transfer it from my dealer to me. Throw in a month for Fairfax sheriff to get around to signing off, and 3-6 months for ATF paperwork, and it literally could be after New Year's before I get the call to come pick it up. And of course last (and certainly least), I'll still have to undergo a NICS instant background check right before I pick it up.
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What did you order?
My experience with Bushmaster has been very positive, give them call and figure out what is going on.
It's an SBR AR-15 with an 11.5 inch barrel. It has to come to my dealer via a Form 3, and then to me via a Form 4. It's basically double ATF paperwork.
Posted by: Ravenwood at July 12, 2005 7:26 AMYou know, that if you create a corporation - say a computer consulting corporation - you can transfer the weapon to the corporation which will hold it as a corporate asset. You, of course, as an officer and director of said corporation would have the right to choose where the corporation stored it and who had access to it.
It cuts down on a lot of the paperwork and background check things (not sure how much at the ATF level - but it basically eliminates the Fairfax Sheriff signoff).
Posted by: countertop at July 12, 2005 9:58 AMI did know that, and it's plan B (or Plan A if I ever move to Arlington where the LEO refuses to do his job). From what I understand it doesn't cut down the ATF paperwork much at all, but would get by the LEO sign off.
Right now it's not worth the hassle and expense of incorporating.
Posted by: Ravenwood at July 12, 2005 1:56 PMOTOH, a custom rifle often takes a year or more to be built and delivered. Some of the smaller companies have a 3-4 year waiting list.
It might have been simpler to just order a regular Bushie then run the paperwork on the replacement parts. At least you would have the rifle to play with in the mean time.
What you are building is a Short Barrelled weapon, and there has been regulation for that since ... oh 1936 or so.
Posted by: Drew at July 12, 2005 2:15 PMWith the AR, it's the lower that is registered not the upper. So an existing lower would have to go to a Class 3 SOT to be etched as an SBR and registered with the ATF as such. (Or you could just buy it pre-registered with the shorty upper.)
Either way, you can't buy the SBR upper at all until you have the registered lower. Possessing a shorty upper in conjunction with my normal unregistered regular length AR-15 would be considered felony possession an unlicensed machinegun, punishable by up to 10 years in prison. Even if they aren't assembled, possessing machinegun parts with an unregistered receiver is illegal.
I could have sent my regular AR-lower out to be converted to an SBR, but then I wouldn't have any AR to shoot at all. Instead I opted to just buy the whole kit and caboodle.
Posted by: Ravenwood at July 12, 2005 3:01 PM(c) Ravenwood and Associates, 1990 - 2014
