Is this the guy that had the weapon laying next to him when a police officer approached his car?

LOL. " He told me, "You need to calm down sir.�As if the "sir" on that order makes it polite. Now I had a public servant deciding to rule over the citizen. This was upsetting me further."

Yeah, that guy wasn't looking for trouble. What a dick.

This is no friend of gun rights. He may have been legal but he was obviously looking to cause trouble. No friend. It is this type of gun right "activist" who will spell the doom of gun rights.

YEAH! That's right... He should have been locked up! Not submitting to the man! Who does he think he is? We are all suspects until proven otherwise! What a dickhead that fishorman is!

Well, yes!

Looking forward to your response to my comment at your blog, which was posted well before you responded here.

Ok, I have responded to you at both, now...

So please, just move to the back of the bus and have a seat.

So now you think you are another Rosa Park. LOL

I read some more at his site. This clown deliberately concealed as much of the weapon in his waistband as he could manage. If you want to exercise your right to open carry, then open carry. You don't stick it in your waistband with only the handle showing and walk into a store or a mall. You wear it openly in a side or front holster. (Or wear it in the rear if you don't mind it being snatched by your next robber.)
This is just a jerk deliberately trying to scare people and then claiming Rosa Parks status when the police naturally, and politely, question him.
Charlton Heston has nightmares about people like this.

Politely. Now that's one way to put it.

Exactly, like I said... he should be in jail! He didn't carry a gun the way I think he should carry a gun.

And his attitude towards police breaking their sworn oath to uphold the Constitution is just gonna make trouble for all gun owners.

(Actually, I would have liked to completely conceal... but my state doesn't "allow" me that "priviledge" I never claimed Rosa Parks status. I never claimed anything. God makes men who they are. What I wrote simply implied you were acting like those slaves which said, "don't get all uppity or the master will beat us." But for this discussion maybe I should be comparing you to Jews that willingly gave up their absolute freaking RIGHT to bear arms. Because it would only scare people if they had kept those guns. Now, go carry it that way if you like).

You deliberately carried your weapon half concealed in your waistband instead of a normal open carry manner. You said so yourself, so this is not about carry fashion. You wanted a confrontation with police, you got it and since then you have been whimpering like a school child. Including the laughable complaint that the PO was provocatively polite.
I note that you decided to create this scene in a nice safe environment for yourself. A mall, a bank, with a PO. I guess I would take your "God makes men..." blustering more seriously if you had actually shown some courage by waistband carrying at the local open air drug market, or in the local 'hood. Ya know, where you might run into people like yourself, looking for a confrontation. No, you choose to prove your manhood against mothers with their children at the mall, bank tellers and the dreaded 6th Precinct Gang. LOL.

It's also quite telling that Mike brings up notions of the NRA. It may well be said that the NRA has gotten gun owners where they are today! Certainly, they walk the walk, and collect the money, but where are gun owners exactly? Hiding all guns. Afraid to even take a shotgun case to their car for fear of "alarming" the public.

While he may well... the NRA, which has sponsored many a "reasonable" gun control regulations, I certainly wouldn't be using them in the defense of my position on the RKBA.

Yes, that NRA, which supports parents and teachers to not have the ability to defend your children while in school, to name just one. There looks to be 130 more over at The War On Guns.

The COMPROMISER is where all unjust laws originate from. Check them out, there will be more.

All gun control is uncostitutional and the laws dont work becuase they dont keep crinimals from optaining guns just the victims

Yeah, it's not the NRA that has protected gun rights in America, it's people like you who deliberately provoke law enforcement officers and shoppers at the mall. What an ego.
The NRA builds public support for gun rights. You go out of your way to piss off the very people we need to protect our rights.
Rosa Parks, indeed.

There! I agree with you! It is the NRA that has got us where we are today, (by the way... did you go read those links?)

Yes, where would we be without compromisers and those who willingly break their sworn oath to uphold the Constitution? Sounds awful to me.

We "NEED" them to protect our rights??? Really?

So, I take it you are counting on the NRA and police to protect your freedoms? Way to take personal responsibilty.

And if we do indeed NEED them, like you claim, we would already have lost our rights.

You need to find that whole, 'power remains in the hands of the people, and government is here to serve us' attittude. Not the attitude of a needful beggar.

" Way to take personal responsibilty."
You mean like taking your wife along with you when you go looking for a confrontation with the police? Sorry, that doesn't strike me as freedom fighter behavior.
Like I said, do the same down in the 'hood. You can add some children to your team to provide you some additional "courage".

Ok, it is quite clear we are going around in circles... ending with your complaint that I didn't open carry in a dangerous enough part of town. Well, to be clear Ellensburg doesn't have a part of town that is any more "dangerous" then another. I open carried where I was headed. Not going out of my way to be the freedom fighter YOU are looking for.

I was just trying to live my life without a set of chains around my neck. When police arrived, holding the threat of those chains in their hands, I asked why? Then that investigation an investigation you call "polite" started. I treated them like any government official should be treated when they are violating an oath they swore to uphold.

Tell me though, why does the master NEED the slaves? Isn't that the country we, as American's, died in the thousands to avoid?

I would like to clear something up.

"taking your wife along with you"
Fishorman did not "take me" on an open carrying expedition. WE went to the store and bank to run some errands just like we normally do. Nothing more, nothing less.
It is not a big deal to me that my husband carries openly.

Cheers

"I was just trying to live my life without a set of chains around my neck."
Your own words belie this. You stated earlier at your blog that you deliberately carried with just the handle showing, in your waistband. That is not an open carry and you did it to get a reaction. Now you say that it was a normal stroll to the store. Whatever. You give gun rights advocates a bad name, just like people who use their First Amendment rights to scream hateful obscenities at people hurt First Amendment advocates.
I realize that you think of yourself as some type of hero, but you are not. Just extremely self absorbed and immature.

I could care less if fish-or-man carried his pistol in a manner you approved of.

He had a right to do so.

People who only exercise rights when convenient, and bad mouth others for being radical about their rights only serve those who would remove those rights.

Why in the hell should we have to hide our firearms from gun fearing wussies?

Nice flame war, but I'm really torn on this one.

One the one hand, Fish or Man has a valid point about exercising his right. I personally don't have a problem with people carrying guns, and agree that people who fear guns should learn to deal with their problem and not force their will upon others.

On the other hand, Mikem makes a really valid point rooted in reality. The reality is that people DO have the power to erode our rights. It's not right and may be unConstitutional, but you must realize that with our current system of government (the way it actually works, not the way it was intended to work) it only takes a majority of politicians to take away our rights.

Let me draw from a personal anecdote.

Where I used to live years ago we used to go out to our friends land in the unincorporated county and shoot machine guns. We were well within our legal right, were obeying the law, had a good backstop, and did not create an unsafe condition. But there were occasional noise complaints from neighbors.

This prompted a friend of mine to purchase a suppressor. He spent $400 on the suppressor, paid another $200 in tax, and waited the 4 months to pick it up, just so he could shoot without bothering the neighbors.

I asked him why he would go through such trouble to accommodate the neighbors, and he wisely told me that he wanted to be more secure in his freedom to shoot. He said that it would only take a few vocal neighbors to get the county government to outlaw machinegun fire, even on private land. He said that he'd rather spend the money and keep his neighbors happy, than piss them off and have his rights infringed.

While simply carrying your gun shouldn't bother people as much as noisily discharging it, both Mikem and Fish or Man make valid arguments. Yeah, Fish or Man was simply exercising his rights. But right or wrong, Mikem shows that he has the wisdom the realize that in reality, 51% of the voters can take away that right.

I have to call you on 51% of voters taking away others rights.

What has the GAY rights community done in the past 10 years? They have been vocal, in your face, loud attention getting marches, and a hell of a lot public about their rights then me, or ANY gun owners are.

Where has the gay rights gone since then? They have been approved everywhere... seeing "Brokeback" this weekend?

They came out of the closet, WITH FORCE,, they are not 51% of American's... Are they worse off or better off for doing so?

Apples and oranges. A gay man or woman coming out of the closet does not invoke real (REAL) fear in people. Gun in the waistband does. Open carry in a side holster shows that you are legally carrying. Gun half hidden in the waistband looks too much like how a crook would carry a weapon. In any case it is pushing the envelope, at best, on the term "open carry". And I still can't believe you did not desire that effect. Your reaction to the police saying "You need to calm down, sir" is just hilariously chip on the shoulder stuff.
I'm glad you won the case. I don't hope that others use your method of advancing the gun rights cause.

The mayor of new york city is blamming the NRA for the shooting of cops what a mealy mouthed idiot what about all the overly lienient judges they have in the courts? i mean NEW YORK has a real worm for a mayor